Организационные вопросы ПВД

[Zagremel]

Я думаю так. В первую разведку едут те кто .. сами занете кто..
Далее мы ведь поедем большой тусой. Правильно? Вот там и решим с кем поедем в разведку снова.

Ваще не очень понимаю.. Как всё будет происходить. Вот сначала разведка - потом пвд так? Значит когда разведка ПВД не будет? Будет тока разведка пвд нв в стиле ворОны что ли? для избранных? 5-7 человек? Или мутить разведку в субботу? или разведчики разведывают маршрут, в то время как паралельно идёт пвдшка в другом районе ваще? Получается разведчики будут разведывать и лазить по буреломам, а нормально кататься все остальные? Неправильно! Я тоже хочу кататься с тусой!

В любом случае нада ставить конкретные цели имхо...
На майские запланирована 3х дневка... Нада подготовица. Уточнить как там дела в мещере.. Давно не были ведь. Думаю что на разведку поедут НВшники, ака ВорОны... Больше мало кто захочет туда сейчас лезть. Причём непонятно куда ваще.. Половодье там..

[XOPT]

А что, если в разведку будут ехать все те, кто по опытнее / ну а все остальные - уже потом, по проложенному пути?

[Helfer]

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(Zagremel @ 19.04.2006 01:15) [snapback]110163[/snapback]</td>
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<td class="vbquotemain" width="100%" valign="top">...Получается разведчики будут разведывать и лазить по буреломам, а нормально кататься все остальные? Неправильно! Я тоже хочу кататься с тусой!</td>
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Я так понимаю на практике вве так и будет: если хотим интересные маршруты - то разведка едет в Первый выходной день , дабы ко второму иметь возможность починится, утрясти маршрут и на второй день "кататься с тусой"

[vix]

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(VELOMANIAK @ 18.04.2006 17:59)</td>
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---Отличная мысль! Но ехать разведанный маршрут сразу не всем по душе будет только...

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(BoneSpirit @ 18.04.2006 22:25)</td>
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---Получать мысленные тички и словесные подколки... Особенно от новичков...

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(VELOMANIAK @ 18.04.2006 23:26)</td>
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<td class="vbquotemain" width="100%" valign="top">А вот мне, например, кажется, что езда по разведанному маршруту дает особый кайф в виде чувства контроля над уже слегка знакомой дорогой и осознания твоей нужности для всех остальных участников.</td>
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---И надо их менять... Что бы зазнацца не успевали...

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(VELOMANIAK @ 18.04.2006 23:26)</td>
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---При условии, что он не "лось".

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(Zagremel @ 19.04.2006 01:15)</td>
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<td class="vbquotemain" width="100%" valign="top">Или мутить разведку в субботу</td>
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---Тогда поедешь только ты, батенька! Ведь не все же могут поехать БГ и кричать потом "Мало! Поедем куда нить еще!"

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(Zagremel @ 19.04.2006 01:15)</td>
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<td class="vbquotemain" width="100%" valign="top">Причём непонятно куда ваще.. Половодье там..</td>
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---Вот и отлично! Байки хорошенько промоем...

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(Zagremel @ 19.04.2006 08:13)</td>
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<td class="vbquotemain" width="100%" valign="top">Я тоже хочу кататься с тусой!</td>
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---Да кто же тебе не дает? Velomaniak дело говорит!

[Zidar]

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(Zagremel @ 18.04.2006 23:17) [snapback]110110[/snapback]</td>
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<td class="vbquotemain" width="100%" valign="top">Отлично! Первая разведка будет проходить ориентировочно в это воскр. Ориентировочно где-то в черустях.. Будут буреломы и болота!! прально? Приглашаются матёрые вороны и просто лосистые и выносливые товарищи не боящиеся лазить с мокрыми ногами через буреломы. Так? или я опять забегаю вперёд?</td>
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Загремел, ты опять бежишь впереди паровоза. Когда поедем, куда и зачем - все будет объявлено в свое время.

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<td class="vbquotemain" width="100%" valign="top">И по какому принципу будут отбиратся разведчики? Типа "Кто хочет в разведку?" - "Я!" - "и я!!" - "И меня возьмите!" "Не, тебе еще рано, у тебя колесо еще не выросло."
Или "В бой идут одни старики"?
Желающих пойти в разведку явно будет много.</td>
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Думаю, тут все просто. Как минимум нужно желание шариться черт знает где и непонятно зачем. :-)
И еще, конечно, надо иметь уверенные навыки езды без дорог в хорошем темпе и соответствующее снаряжение. Наконец, если в обычной покатушке не получается ехать в числе первых 10% группы, с разведочными выездами явно пока стоит повременить.
[off]Мне, правда, как замыкающему, 10% головы группы ну никак не светят! :D [/off]

А вообще, чего вы все так в эту идею кинулись? Хотите разведок? - Будут вам и обычные ПВД с элементами разведки.

Вообще, тема разведок в субботу мне тоже нравится. А еще можно в ночь с субботы на воскресенье в Москву не возвращаться, а ночевать где-нибудь там же, в лесу. Надо будет обдумать эту тему поподробнее...

[Helfer]

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(Zidar @ 19.04.2006 09:14) [snapback]110222[/snapback]</td>
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<td class="vbquotemain" width="100%" valign="top">А еще можно в ночь с субботы на воскресенье в Москву не возвращаться, а ночевать где-нибудь там же, в лесу. Надо будет обдумать эту тему поподробнее...</td>
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Данные о маршруте передать через ноут? Диктовать по телефону?

[Traveller]

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(VELOMANIAK @ 18.04.2006 23:26) [snapback]110116[/snapback]</td>
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<td class="vbquotemain" width="100%" valign="top">Предлагаю называть разветчиков скаутами - так вроде поинтереснее звучит :D</td>
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Ага. Давай еще называть бутерброды гамбургерами, девушек - герлами и т. п.

[vix]

<Начало флуда>

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<td class="vbquotemain" width="100%" valign="top">Мне, правда, как замыкающему, 10% головы группы ну никак не светят!</td>
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---Да ладно Zidar! Не скромничай! Все видели и не раз, как ты мчишься, когда не исполняешь роль замыкающего...

</Конец флуда>

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(Helfer @ 19.04.2006 09:30)</td>
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<td class="vbquotemain" width="100%" valign="top">Вообще, тема разведок в субботу мне тоже нравится.</td>
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---Вот только не предлагайте утром, в воскресение встречать остальную группу и еще раз по больному... :D Но в субботу лучше: потому как большинству, так думаю в понедельник на работу...

---А разведчики будут еще и впечатлениями делицца! В рекламных целях... По крайней мере те, кто не ворон и не хотят ими быть (Мофо, например... Хотя он врятли поедет...) могли иметь представление о том, где им предстоит "умирать"

[Zidar]

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<td class="vbquote" width="100%" style="background-image: url('style_images/poporange2/quotes/quote-by-bg.gif')" align="left" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap">(Helfer @ 19.04.2006 09:30) [snapback]110225[/snapback]</td>
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Зачем по телефону? :blink:
Да и как ты трек по телефону надиктуешь?

Все гораздо демократичнее. В лесу как правило есть выход в интернет через КПК, можно на форум выложить не только трек, но и даже фотки с маршрута! :-)

[Joanna]

А не проще приблизительно написать:
- условия,
- что за местность,
- километраж,
- погодные условия,
- на какую категорию веломанов по подготовленности и выносливости эта разведка.

Сюда же можно написать все возможные исходы разведовательного похода и всё остальное до мелочей.... Народ сам решит кто выдержит, а кто нет....

В итоге: не придётся проходить 2 раза один и тот же путь -это не зачот , ноющих личностей на погодные условия и пр. не будет, соответственно ПВД должно пройти хорошо и без напрягов, со стороны отстающих