Fox Float RP23 устройство,настройки, неисправности,ремонт,обслу живание

[Наливаич]

после накручивания сборки поршня на шток трубка дала клина

телепат

[IUSius]

Никак не могу понять. CTD-шная крутилка как на фото двумя поставми выше (RP23, поршень триад) вращается на 360 градусов. В крайних положениях, от "C" и "D" прокручивается с очень небольшим усилием вверх. Судя по кулачку, так точно быть не должно - все три положения рычажка должны быть "вниз". Что там не хватает для полного счастья? Аморта прямо сейчас под рукой нет еще раз посмотреть. По памяти никакого криминала не увидел. Возможно, только у кулачка не хватало остроты граней - они очень плавные были, как слизанные. Это оно?

у старого триада вращение 360гр без ограничения, позиции по 120гр

у триада ctd, не вкурсе, не 360 скорее всего только у ремоутного


заодно кину разные исполнения крутилок

Показать то, что скрыто

отскок на периферии крутилок:
триад/ctd perf/fact no adj

rp23

ctd TC


и отскок в центре крутилок:
ctd with adj

[kirill.k2]

у старого триада вращение 360гр без ограничения, позиции по 120гр

у меня был "триад" у которого все три позиции внизу, по 30 градусов примерно:



При этом верхняя часть кулачка по высоте = позиции "Climb". И из позиции "D" сваливается "вверх" - в блокировку - без усилий практически. Это как бы ощутимая проблема при катании...

[IUSius]

Перебрал с систематизацией
хотел выделить эволюцию/асортимент флоатов с компрессией/пропедалем/блокировкой по годам производства
во всём виновато переименовка rp в ctd, и семшивание шайбовых технологий, с буствальвом, и триадом, между линейками factory/performance/evolution

Флоаты с технологией BV помечены BOOSTVALVE™
Флоаты/ваниллы с технологией TRIAD Помечены TRIAD™ и помечены цветом в названии
model option означает не обязательное применение технологии BV или triad в линейке
Флоаты плоско/коническо шайбовые не помечены никак
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более старенькие аморты ещё здесь
http://www.birota.ru/manuals/foxflow/

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2000-2001
http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...rShocks_en.pdf

Float
Float R
Float RC

Vanilla
Vanilla R
Vanilla RC
Vanilla RC Remote

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2002
http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...rShocks_en.pdf

Float
Float R
Float L
Float RL
у L/RL две версии блокировки - 90° от положения 45° - мягкая блокировка; 180° от положения 0° - жёсткая триадная блокировка TRIAD™
"The compression lock-out is the blue lever. There are two options for lever position. For one option, the lever is at a 45°
angle counter clockwise to the shock in the normal position. Moving the lever clockwise 90° increases compression
damping which “locks-out” the shock. For the other option, the lever is in line with the shock in the normal position.
Moving the lever 180° in either direction increases compression damping. The increased compression damping
setting will be firm but will “blow-off” under a big hit or heavy load."

Vanilla
Vanilla R
Vanilla RL с тремя вариантами блокировки -90° от положения 45° - мягкая блокировка; 180° от положения 0° - мягкая блокировка; 90° от положения 0° - жёсткая триадная блокировка TRIAD™
"Compression adjustment is featured on the Vanilla RL Shock. The compression adjuster is the blue lever. There are three options for lever position for the Vanilla RL. For one option, the lever is at a 45° angle counter clockwise to the shock in the normal position. Moving the lever clockwise 90° increases compression damping. On another option, the lever is in line with the shock in the normal position. Moving the lever 180° in either direction increases compression damping. On the third option, the lever is in line with the shock in the normal position. Move the lever 90° clockwise to increase compression damping. The increased compression damping setting will be firm but will “blow off” under a big hit or heavy load."
Vanilla RC


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2003
http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...rShocks_en.pdf

Float
Float R
Float L
Float RL
у L/RL две версии блокировки - 90° от положения 45° - мягкая блокировка; 180° от положения 0° - жёсткая триадная блокировка TRIAD™
"The compression lock-out is the blue lever. There are two options for lever position. For one option, the lever is at a 45°
angle counter clockwise to the shock in the normal position. Moving the lever clockwise 90° increases compression
damping which “locks-out” the shock. For the other option, the lever is in line with the shock in the normal position.
Moving the lever 180° in either direction increases compression damping. The increased compression damping
setting will be firm but will “blow-off” under a big hit or heavy load."


Vanilla
Vanilla R
Vanilla RL с тремя вариантами блокировки -90° от положения 45° - мягкая блокировка; 180° от положения 0° - мягкая блокировка; 90° от положения 0° - жёсткая триадная блокировка TRIAD™
"Compression adjustment is featured on the Vanilla RL Shock. The compression adjuster is the blue lever. There are three options for lever position for the Vanilla RL. For one option, the lever is at a 45° angle counter clockwise to the shock in the normal position. Moving the lever clockwise 90° increases compression damping. On another option, the lever is in line with the shock in the normal position. Moving the lever 180° in either direction increases compression damping. On the third option, the lever is in line with the shock in the normal position. Move the lever 90° clockwise to increase compression damping. The increased compression damping setting will be firm but will “blow off” under a big hit or heavy load."
Vanilla RC

AVA (Регулируемая Съедалка HV объёма)
Talas (трёхпозиционная регулировка хода)
SBC Enduro (Спешевские Флоаты с регулировкой хода "The Enduro FLOAT R and Enduro FLOAT RL shocks feature a switch that adjusts travel. When the switch is in line with the shock, it is in Long Travel mode and has 1.875 inches of travel. When the switch is turned 90 deg. in either direction the shock changes to short travel mode and has 1.375 inches of travel. Spring Rate is also stiffer in short travel mode.")
SBC Brain
M-Bits

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2004

Float
Float R
Float L
Float RL
у L/RL две версии блокировки - 90° от положения 45° - мягкая блокировка; 180° от положения 0° - жёсткая триадная блокировка TRIAD™
"The compression lock-out is the blue lever. There are two options for lever position. For one option, the lever is at a 45°
angle counter clockwise to the shock in the normal position. Moving the lever clockwise 90° increases compression
damping which “locks-out” the shock. For the other option, the lever is in line with the shock in the normal position.
Moving the lever 180° in either direction increases compression damping. The increased compression damping
setting will be firm but will “blow-off” under a big hit or heavy load."

Vanilla
Vanilla R
Vanilla RC

AVA
Talas
SBC Enduro
SBC Brain
K2 Pull Shock

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2005

http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...supplement.pdf
Triad TRIAD™


http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...supplement.pdf
Septune

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2006
http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...arShock_en.pdf

Float
Float R
Float RP3

семейство rp23
The “neutral zone” between the Full ProPedal and Light ProPedal adjustments is simply a transition zone between
the two settings. However, FOX recommends that the lever not be left in the “neutral zone” as there is no detent,
and the lever can accidentally shift into the Full ProPedal or Light ProPedal settings during hard riding.

DHX 3.0
DHX 4.0
DHX 5.0

DHX AIR 3.0
DHX AIR 4.0
DHX AIR 5.0

Vanilla
Vanilla R

Brain Fade
Brain Remote
Triad TRIAD™

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2008
http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...008_om_eng.htm

Float
Float R
Float RP2
The ProPedal lever allows for on-the-fly ProPedal adjustment. ProPedal damping reduces pedal-induced suspension bob. The two ProPedal lever settings are:
1. OPEN
2. PROPEDAL

Float RPL/Triad TRIAD™
The FLOAT RPL has three on-the-fly suspension settings:
1. OPEN (DESCENDING)
2. PROPEDAL (FOR BUMP COMPLIANCE AND PEDALING EFFICIENCY)
3. LOCKED (CLIMBING & ROAD RIDING)


DHX 3.0
DHX 4.0
DHX 5.0

DHX AIR 3.0
DHX AIR 4.0
DHX AIR 5.0

Van R
Vanilla
Vanilla R

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2009
http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...009_OM_eng.htm

Float R
Float RP2
The ProPedal lever allows for on-the-fly ProPedal adjustment. ProPedal damping reduces pedal-induced suspension bob. The two ProPedal lever settings are:
1. OPEN
2. PROPEDAL

Float RP2, RP23 DRCV
Float RP23
The 3-position ProPedal knob (shown below) allows you to adjust ProPedal firmness when the ProPedal lever is in the PROPEDAL position. The ProPedal knob only changes damping when the ProPedal lever is in the PROPEDAL position.
The ProPedal knob settings are denoted by the numbers etched onto the ProPedal knob. The three ProPedal knob settings are:
(1) PROPEDAL Light
(2) PROPEDAL Medium
(3) PROPEDAL Firm



Float RPL/Triad TRIAD™
The FLOAT RPL has three on-the-fly suspension settings:
1. OPEN (DESCENDING)
2. PROPEDAL (FOR BUMP COMPLIANCE AND PEDALING EFFICIENCY)
3. LOCKED (CLIMBING & ROAD RIDING)


DHX 3.0
DHX 4.0
DHX 5.0

DHX AIR 3.0
DHX AIR 4.0
DHX AIR 5.0

Van R
Vanilla R

[IUSius]

2010

http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...eng/index.html

Float R

Float RPL TRIAD™

The FLOAT RPL has three on-the-fly suspension settings:
1. OPEN (DESCENDING)
2. PROPEDAL (FOR BUMP COMPLIANCE AND PEDALING EFFICIENCY)
3. LOCKED (CLIMBING & ROAD RIDING)


Float RP2

he ProPedal lever allows for on-the-fly ProPedal adjustment. ProPedal damping reduces pedal-induced suspension bob. The two ProPedal lever settings are:
1.OPEN
2.PROPEDAL


Float RP23

The 3-position ProPedal knob (shown below) allows you to adjust ProPedal firmness when the ProPedal lever is in the PROPEDAL position. The ProPedal knob only changes damping when the ProPedal lever is in the PROPEDAL position.
The ProPedal knob settings are denoted by the numbers etched onto the ProPedal knob. The three ProPedal knob settings are:
(1) PROPEDAL Light
(2) PROPEDAL Medium
(3) PROPEDAL Firm




DHX AIR 5.0

DHX RC4

DHX RC2

DHX 4.0

VAN R

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2011

http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...011/index.html

FLOAT RP23 BOOSTVALVE™

The 3-position ProPedal knob (shown below) allows you to adjust ProPedal firmness when the ProPedal lever is in the PROPEDAL position. The ProPedal knob only changes damping when the ProPedal lever is in the PROPEDAL position.
The ProPedal knob settings are denoted by the numbers etched onto the ProPedal knob. The three ProPedal knob settings are:
(1) PROPEDAL Light
(2) PROPEDAL Medium
(3) PROPEDAL Firm



FLOAT RL Remote TRIAD™


FLOAT RLTRIAD™
The FLOAT RL has two suspension compression settings:
1. LOCKED (CLIMBING & ROAD RIDING)
2. OPEN (BUMP ABSORPTION)


FLOAT RP2 RemoteBOOSTVALVE™model option


FLOAT RP2BOOSTVALVE™model option
The ProPedal lever allows for on-the-fly ProPedal adjustment. ProPedal damping reduces pedal-induced suspension bob. The two ProPedal lever settings are:
1.OPEN
2.PROPEDAL


DHX Air 5.0

DHX RC4

DHX RC2

VAN RC

VAN R

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2012

http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...012/index.html

FLOAT - Factory series
- Float RP23 Adaptive logic BOOSTVALVE™

As shown in this standard ProPedal® knob setting example, you can toggle between a riding platform of medium firmness (#2), or the open setting for a smoother ride over rough terrain. By changing your knob setting to #1, #2, or #3, you can choose the light, medium, or firm pedaling platform. Switch from any of these preset platforms to the open platform by simply flipping your ProPedal® lever.

As shown in this Adaptive Logic™ ProPedal® knob setting example, you can toggle between the firmest riding platform (#3), or the light setting (#1). By changing your knob setting between #0, #1, or #2, you can choose to have open, light, or medium. By flipping your ProPedal® lever, switch from any of these preset platforms to the firm platform (#3).


- Float RP2 Remote BOOSTVALVE™

FLOAT - Performance series

-Float RP23
!!!!! ПОСЛЕДНИЙ ВЫПУЩЕННЫЙ FLOAT С КОНИЧЕСКИМИ ШАЙБАМИ!!!!!

RP23 ProPedal® damping levels are defined as follows:
0 "open". This level is essentially OFF; a zero level of low-speed damping, the most supple.
1 "light": a minor level of low-speed damping; more sensitive than medium to small bumps.
2 "medium": a moderate level of low-speed damping; less sensitive to small bumps.
3 "firm": a higher level of low-speed damping; least sensitive to small bumps. This level is best for climbing, sprinting, or smooth road travel.


- Float RP2 Remote

- Float RP2 w/boostvalve BOOSTVALVE™


- Float RP2

RP2 and RPL ProPedal® allows for on-the-fly ProPedal® level adjustment.
"OPEN": This level is essentially ProPedal® being turned OFF; a zero level of low-speed damping, the most supple feel.
"ProPedal®": For the RP2 and RPL, a level of low-speed damping that is moderately sensitive to small bumps.


- Float RPL TRIAD™

RP2 and RPL ProPedal® allows for on-the-fly ProPedal® level adjustment.
"OPEN": This level is essentially ProPedal® being turned OFF; a zero level of low-speed damping, the most supple feel.
"ProPedal®": For the RP2 and RPL, a level of low-speed damping that is moderately sensitive to small bumps.
"LOCKOUT": On the RPL, this is the firmest possible pedaling platform, best for climbing, sprinting, or smooth road travel.



FLOAT - Evolution series

- Float RL TRIAD™

The RL ProPedal® lever gives you on-the-fly toggling between ProPedal® damping and full lockout. ProPedal®damping reduces pedal-induced suspension bob, while full lockout is more efficient for sprinting, climbing or smooth road riding.
The two RL ProPedal®lever settings are:
LOCKOUT
PROPEDAL
http://www.ridefox.com/fox_tech_cent...L_ProPedal.gif

- Floar RL Remote TRIAD™


DHX Air 5.0

DHX RC4/RC2

VAN Performance RC / Evolution R


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[IUSius]

2013



FLOAT CTD - Factory

- CTD BV with Trail Adjust BOOSTVALVE™

With an easy flip of the blue CTD lever, you will quickly achieve optimum rear suspension performance for all types of riding terrain.
Climb mode: engages the firmest low-speed compression setting for maximum pedaling efficiency.
Trail mode: a moderate low-speed compression setting for an optimal blend of pedaling efficiency and bike control, in undulating riding terrain.
Descend mode: sets the low-speed compression setting to fully open, for plush absorbency and maximum bike control on steep, aggressive descents.



- CTD BV Remote BOOSTVALVE™



- CTD TRIAD™

lever actuated 3-position Climb/Trail/Descend

- CTD Remote TRIAD™

remotely actuated 3-position Climb/Trail/Descend

FLOAT CTD - Performance

- CTD BV BOOSTVALVE™

lever actuated 3-position Climb/Trail/Descend

- CTD TRIAD™

lever actuated 3-position Climb/Trail/Descend


FLOAT CTD - Evolution

- CTD TRIAD™

lever actuated 3-position Climb/Trail/Descend


- CTD Remote TRIAD™

remotely actuated 3-position Climb/Trail/Descend

DHX Air 5.0

DHX RC2 & RC4

VAN RC & R


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2014-2015
http://www.ridefox.com/help.php?m=bike&listall=manual

2014 FLOAT CTD
Factory FLOAT CTD w/Adj BV
BOOSTVALVE™
lever actuated Climb/Trail/Descend (3 position), Trail adjust range (1, 2, 3)

Factory FLOAT CTD Remote BV
BOOSTVALVE™
remote actuated Climb/Trail/Descend (3 position)

Performance FLOAT CTD BV
BOOSTVALVE™
lever actuated Climb/Trail/Descend (3 position)

Evolution FLOAT CTD Remote TRIAD™
remote actuated Climb/Trail/Descend (3 position)

Evolution FLOAT CTD TRIAD™
lever actuated Climb/Trail/Descend (3 position)

2014 FLOAT CTD DrCV
Factory FLOAT CTD DrCV TRIAD™
lever actuated Climb/Trail/Descend (3 position)

Factory FLOAT CTD Remote DrCV TRIAD™
remote actuated Climb/Trail/Descend (3 position)

Performance FLOAT CTD DrCV TRIAD™
lever actuated Climb/Trail/Descend (3 position)

Evolution FLOAT CTD DrCV TRIAD™
Climb/Trail/Descend (3 position)

2014 FLOAT iCD
Factory FLOAT iCD
Electronic Climb/Descend mode

2014 FLOAT X CTD TRIAD™ X
Factory FLOAT X CTD w/Adj TRIAD™ X
lever actuated Climb/Trail/Descend (3 position), Trail adjust range (1, 2, 3)

Factory FLOAT X CTD Remote TRIAD™ X
remote actuated Climb/Trail/Descend (3 position)

2014 DHX RC4/RC2
2014 VAN R/RC
2014-2015 FLOAT X Remote Conversion
2015 DHX RC4/RC2
2015 FLOAT CTD
2015 FLOAT iCD
2015 FLOAT X CTD TRIAD™ X
2015 VAN R/RC

[Наливаич]

как же хорошо, порой, быть в неведении......
давлю на звездочку, за экскурс...

[Allan44]

Так чем float X отличается от других бачковых?

[Наливаич]

Так чем float X отличается от других бачковых?

ответ тем же , что и монарх плюс тебя устроит? они близнецы братья.

[Allan44]

ответ тем же , что и монарх плюс тебя устроит? они близнецы братья.

нет не устроит.